Take the 2-minute tour ×
Web Applications Stack Exchange is a question and answer site for power users of web applications. It's 100% free, no registration required.

Google+ decided to let me IM with people in my circles. But I only ever notice IM messages if I log in to an account via Pidgin (a desktop XMPP/AIM/etc. client). Google offers XMPP login to its chat system.

However, what is my XMPP username (and domain, e.g. gmail.com)? I don't have a Gmail account on this Google Account.

Is it possible to log in via XMPP to chat with my Google+ circles without GMail-izing this Google Account?

A Google Talk help page suggests it's possible to have a username without Gmail, but not how to create such a Google Talk username.

I tried https://talk.google.com/ . It solicits me to install their proprietary software/extensions locally, rather than just letting me sign up for a username; are those extensions:

  • a way to do so; or
  • the only way to add a Talk-but-not-Gmail username to my existing Google Account?

I'd prefer if there's a Web+XMPP—only way of doing this, if possible.

I don't want a Gmail account with my Google Account because it would become my primary email for this Google Account, which has various negative effects for me.

share|improve this question
add comment

2 Answers

When you sign up for Google+, it automatically signs you up for Google Talk (chat) as well. (Google Talk will appear in your list of Google products.)

If you have enabled people in your circles to chat with you, and they have also enabled you to chat with them, Google+ automatically assigns you an XMPP user name like 2h3jpoe9s23xc4o3gjnuspkmrt@public.talk.google.com which is included in the chat contacts of those people. The Google+ and GMail web chat clients do not display this address; only the person's name is displayed, and the profile photo if you hover over the name. However this address can be seen for people in your circles using XMPP clients and in the Google Talk Android client. This address allows people in your circles to chat with you, without requiring you to reveal your email address.

I've attempted to log in to talk.google.com using an XMPP client with the assigned XMPP user name but that did not work for me. If you have an associated GMail or other Google-provided email or Google Talk address then you can log in to talk.google.com using an XMPP client with that address, and your chat contacts will include those from Google+. Otherwise, as far as I can tell, the only way to receive IMs sent to you via Google+ is through Google+.

share|improve this answer
    
Wow, that is so informative! So I should look for an answer to the second half of my question: how to add a Google Talk address without GMail. –  idupree Dec 6 '11 at 3:32
    
I think that you can get a Google Talk id without GMail by signing up as a new user to Google Talk using the Windows client. But I think that GMail and Google Talk both use the same gmail.com name space for the JID (chat user name), even if you don't sign up for email, so this might have the same consequences as signing up for GMail as far as Google+ is concerned. –  mark4o Dec 8 '11 at 22:16
add comment

For at least those contacts/friends that have a Gmail account for Gtalk, you can add them from any XMPP service.

So if you have an XMPP account at jabber.org, for example, and you login into their XMPP server, you can easily add your.friend@gmail.com as a possible buddy (in pidgin) and after authorisation from both sides, you can chat.

share|improve this answer
add comment

Your Answer

 
discard

By posting your answer, you agree to the privacy policy and terms of service.

Not the answer you're looking for? Browse other questions tagged or ask your own question.