Is it possible to see the tree structure in the usenet archive (since Google currently appears to have broken it - removed it completely)

I can't find any images to show how Google groups did used to show a tree structure for usenet groups. But they did.

I am more interested in free ways to do so.


Tree structure of Google Groups/Newsgroups (not OP's question)

Google Groups has done away with their tree structure navigation format for browsing Google Groups in favor of breadcrumb navigation. This makes sense as a tree structure isn't very useful given how Google Groups is both a web gateway to NNTP as well as a web mailing list not compatible with Usenet. Since anyone can create a public or private Google Group, a tree navigation quickly becomes unwieldy and it doesn't appear Google cares to segregate the services; instead choosing to rely on its search tech.

A Usenet hierarchy is, reduced to its essence, a set of Usenet newsgroups that share a common naming prefix, with "." used as the separator between the levels of the hierarchy, like host names. The most popular list is provided by the Big-8 Management Board (B8MB). They publish a list of the canonical Big-8 Usenet groups to news.announce.newgroups every month and can be viewed via Google Groups at http://groups.google.com/group/news.announce.newgroups?hl=en (also mirrored at ISC, ftp://ftp.isc.org/pub/usenet/news.announce.newgroups/Group_Lists/)... It does seem silly Google Groups doesn't integrate a hierarchical list option for just NNTP groups...

While Google Groups is the most extensive collection, there are other free public News servers you may want to explore, including getting a free NNTP account so you may use your own newsreader. The free NNTP accounts will not have as an extensive history however, so you may want to try to make Google Groups work better for you.

Join/Star groups of interest: Most people who use newsreaders subscribe to newsgroups which is akin to "Joining" or "Starring" a group via Google Group's interface so you may want to browse that list for groups you find of interest.

Use keyboard shortcuts: For instance if you know the type of group you are looking for, you can use the hotkeys g l to quickly go to a group or search for similar newsgroups.

g l comp.unix [Tab][Tab] [Enter]

Keyboard shortcuts may be shown by typing the question mark character on any page within https://groups.google.com or at https://support.google.com/groups/answer/6148722

[Updated: answering refined question]

What I am talking about is within any individual thread within a newsgroup....

Tree structure of messages in Google Topics (OP's question)

To reorder messages into conversation threading (messages will be reordered to who replied to whom and then chronologically):

1. Navigate to any Google Groups Topic

2. Above the first message/post, click on the Topic options icon:

    Topic options icon as it appears 2015.09

3. Click option "Tree view"

    Option popup list as it appears 2015.09

  • -1 It looks like you haven't understood what I was talking about. Or if you have then you're very unclear as to why the current system is better. What I am talking about is within any individual thread within a newsgroup, you had a tree structure. I was not talking about the tree of alt and then alt.computer(I don't think google ever showed a tree for that anyway) I am talking about the tree structure within each thread, that showed who replied to who. Newsreaders show trees(though they don't have the archive). – barlop Sep 20 '15 at 23:41
  • You say a breadcrumb structure is better, I don't see how. I don't see any breadscrumb structure for who replied to who anyway. Now. it's a flat structure. Your lecture about usenet isn't relevant – barlop Sep 20 '15 at 23:42
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    And wghere you write "Keyboard shortcuts may be shown by typing the question mark character on any page within groups.google.com or at support.google.com/groups/answer/6148722 " <-- that's interesting.. But i'd add, you have to not be clicked into any textbox – barlop Sep 20 '15 at 23:49

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